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New Meetup: Jim Peterson: Learning a Lot from a Little: Evolving AIs - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Jim Peterson: Learning a Lot from a Little: Evolving AIs When: Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:00 PM Where: TechShop 120 Independence Dr.
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Monica
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Mar 9, 2010
3:18 PM
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sdforum March 3rd event: Intelligence from the Cloud - Preview not available
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AJ Chen
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Mar 1, 2010
7:57 PM
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Message boards, Videos, and a new site design - Meetup.com is beta testing a new site design which I have adopted for our meetup group; I also did some additional customizing. I hope you like it - I know I do. I'd like to point out two lesser known resources available to our group. The first
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Monica
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Feb 19, 2010
1:21 PM
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New Meetup: Bob Blum: CONSCIOUSNESS: What, Who, When, and Why - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Bob Blum: CONSCIOUSNESS: What, Who, When, and Why When: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:00 PM Where: TechShop 120 Independence Dr.
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Monica
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Feb 19, 2010
12:40 PM
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JHTC Event, 3/10 - Regulating Reputational Systems -
JHTC Event, 3/10 - Regulating Reputational Systems
Regulating Reputational Systems
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Tanya
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Feb 18, 2010
11:12 PM
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Meetup topic changed: Logic-based Infallible Godlike AI - I've updated this Meetup. The new topic is "Logic-based Infallible Godlike AI". There is no real presentation. We'll discuss whether these are possible in the first place, what they might be like and whether they can be outsmarted by
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Monica
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Feb 11, 2010
4:16 AM
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New Meetup: Mary's Room, The Chinese Room, Zombies, Bats, and Qualia - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Mary's Room, The Chinese Room, Zombies, Bats, and Qualia When: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:00 PM Where: TechShop 120 Independence D
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Monica
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Feb 9, 2010
9:02 AM
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JHTC Event, 2/9 - Clouds: The Panacea for Most of the Web=?ISO-8859-1?B?uQ==?=s Woes with Matt Thompson of Microsoft -
JHTC Event, 2/9 - Clouds: The Panacea for Most of the Web’s Woes with Matt Thompson of Microsoft
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Tanya
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Jan 30, 2010
9:19 AM
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[ANN] NLP and the Semantic Web, Real-Time Web & Semantic Social Networks - NLP and the Semantic Web, Real-Time Web & Semantic Social Networks
San Francisco Semantic Web Meetup
Thursday 28th of January 2010
http://www.meetup.com/The-San- Francisco-Semantic-Web-Meetup/ calendar/11957011/
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Marco Neumann
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Jan 22, 2010
10:17 PM
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[ANN] Jena Semantic Web Programming with Taylor Cowan, Sanjiva Nath & Jeremy Carroll - Jena Semantic Web Programming with Taylor Cowan, Sanjiva Nath & Jeremy Carroll
San Francisco Semantic Web Meetup
Sunday 24th of January 2010
http://www.meetup.com/The-San- Francisco-Semantic-Web-Meetup/ calendar/11978192/
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Marco Neumann
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Jan 22, 2010
10:15 PM
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New Meetup: Bert Koehler: Building AI Systems That Understand Humor - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Bert Koehler: Building AI Systems That Understand Humor When: Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:00 PM Where: TechShop 120 Independence Dr
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Monica
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Jan 14, 2010
7:08 PM
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Please note that I gave you homework ! - As I stated in http://www.ai-meetup.org/calen dar/12204303 Your homework for Sunday is to read the article at
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Monica
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Jan 7, 2010
12:10 PM
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sdforum event tomorrow Wed: Bringing Social and Consumer Intelligence into Enterprise Collaboration -
Happy New Year! A reminder for tomorrow's sdforum event that might be
interesting to you:
Bringing Social and Consumer Intelligence into Enterprise
Collaboration
As Salesforc
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AJ Chen
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Jan 5, 2010
1:11 PM
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New Meetup: Rethinking AI the MIT Way - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Rethinking AI the MIT Way When: January 10, 2010 12:00 PM Where: TechShop 120 Independence Dr. Menlo Park, CA 94025 800-
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Monica
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Jan 3, 2010
3:07 AM
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JHTC Event, 1/12 - Social Computing with Bernardo Huberman of HP Labs -
JHTC Event, 1/12 - Social Computing with Bernardo Huberman of HP Labs
Social Computing
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Tanya
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Dec 23, 2009
11:37 AM
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Winter break; Videos - Let's take a winter break and skip the 27 December 2009 MeetUp. The next meetup will thus be 10 Jan 2010. Some of the video recordings we've made in the past year have been made available on the Syntience video site at
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Monica
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Dec 14, 2009
12:49 AM
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New Meetup: Frank Heile: Primary and Symbolic Consciousnesses: Two Conscious Beings in One Brain - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Frank Heile: Primary and Symbolic Consciousnesses: Two Conscious Beings in One Brain When: December 13, 2009 12:00 PM Where: TechShop
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Monica
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Dec 4, 2009
12:14 AM
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JHTC Event, 12/8 - The Power of Human Networks in the Information Age -
JHTC Event, 12/8 - The Power of Human Networks in the Information Age
The Power of Human Networks in the Information Age
Featu
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Tanya
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Dec 2, 2009
7:21 PM
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Nov. 17 CITRIS Distinguished lecture on Intelligent Infrastructure Systems - fyi ~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- CITRIS Distinguished Lecture on Intelligent Infrastructure Systems
Dr. Eric Horvitz
Principal Researcher & Research Area Manager, Microsoft Research
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supersalad
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Nov 12, 2009
2:01 PM
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A new AI MeetUp: Monica Anderson: A New Target for AI Research - Who: Monica Anderson When: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:00 PM ; Members can RSVP until Sunday, November 22, 2009 9:00 AM Where: TechShop, 120 Independence Dr., Menlo Park, CA 94025 +1-[masked] Details: I will discuss my view
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Monica
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Nov 10, 2009
11:37 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Event, 11/10 - Can Robotic Cars save the world?; Plus networking - Sooo, ummm, do you have to be Jewish?
--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Tanya wrote:
> From: Tanya
> Subject: [ai-94] Event, 11/10 - Can Robotic Cars save the world?; Plus networking
> To: [address removed]
> Date: Saturday, Novem
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Shawn Alahah
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Nov 7, 2009
2:33 PM
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Event, 11/10 - Can Robotic Cars save the world?; Plus networking -
Event, 11/10 - Can Robotic Cars save the world?; Plus networking
Can Robotic Cars save the world?
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Tanya
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Nov 7, 2009
12:11 AM
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New Meetup: UnMeetup - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: UnMeetup When: November 8, 2009 12:00 PM Where: TechShop 120 Independence Dr. Menlo Park, CA 94025 [masked]
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Monica
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Nov 5, 2009
6:30 PM
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Robotics Judges Needed -
Los Altos Robotics is in need of some volunteer judges for the local
First Lego League kids competition. I've done th
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Steve Ganz
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Nov 3, 2009
11:12 AM
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Attend SIPACON2009 @ Nov 7th, Palo Alto -
SIPACON 2009
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SIPA
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Nov 1, 2009
8:35 PM
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Data Mining NBA Data for Sports Betting - People,
If you are using SVM to mine NBA data to help you make intelligent
bets on NBA games,
It looks like attributes related to referees and
referee-player-interaction-eve nts
would be a good thing to add to the model-table:
http://deadspin.com
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DAN BIKLE
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Oct 31, 2009
12:55 PM
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event: Real time Social Media Monitoring and Marketing -
I thought some of you might be interested in this: SDForum Semantic web SIG
will have the next event on Nov.4th to discuss social media monitoring in real
time. please see below or
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AJ Chen
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Oct 26, 2009
5:43 PM
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Colossus: The Forbin Project is available on YouTube - As several people have pointed out, the movie we'll discuss Sunday is available on YouTube for those who haven't seen it and can't (or don't want to) join us for the movie night on Friday. It's in 10 minute segments but you can likely find them all. If yo
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Monica
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Oct 19, 2009
4:25 PM
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New Meetup: Discussion: Colossus: The Forbin Project - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Discussion: Colossus: The Forbin Project When: October 25, 2009 12:00 PM Where: TechShop 120 Independence Dr. Menlo Park, CA
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Monica
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Oct 18, 2009
3:30 PM
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New Meetup: Extra Meetup: Keith Lofstrom: Server Sky - We have two new events on our calendar: ======================= I will be giving a talk titled "A New Target for AI Research" about Reasoning, Understanding, and Model Free Methods at Hacker Dojo in Sunnyvale at 6:30 PM. De
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Monica
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Oct 16, 2009
4:49 PM
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Meetup details changed: Robot Ethics Beyond the Three Laws - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.ai-meetup.org/calen dar/11573241/ When: October 11, 2009 12:00 PM Where: TechS
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Monica
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Oct 7, 2009
11:52 AM
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New Meetup: Attitudes towards AI - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Attitudes towards AI When: September 27, 2009 12:00 PM Where: TechShop 120 Independence Dr. Menlo Park, CA 94025 800-640
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Monica
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Sep 20, 2009
3:55 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Questions on computational linguistics - On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Manch wrote:
> Thanks Ben. I think I may have seen StockMood in one of the NewTech meetups.
> If not StockMood then something very similar.
>
> Can you comment on how difficult it is to build you
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Ben Goertzel
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Sep 11, 2009
9:59 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Questions on computational linguistics - Preview not available
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Manch
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Sep 11, 2009
9:16 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Questions on computational linguistics - Preview not available
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Manch
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Sep 11, 2009
9:10 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Questions on computational linguistics - Here's a systematic bibliography which is 2 years old
http://liinwww.ira.uka.de/bibl iography/Misc/Sentiment.html
I've built two apps that do text sentiment classification: one for
financial news and one for tweets about products. Both worked OK, a
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Ben Goertzel
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Sep 11, 2009
6:10 PM
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Re: [ai-94] people, topic for unMeetup? - Preview not available
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Travis Wellman
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Sep 11, 2009
3:56 PM
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Re: [ai-94] people, topic for unMeetup? - Cool, good stuff. Mario On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Mike Schachter < [address removed] > wrote:
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Mario
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Sep 11, 2009
3:10 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Questions on computational linguistics - I would recommend the following resources: http://see.stanford.edu/see/co urseinfo.aspx?coll=63480b48-88 19-4efd-8412-263f1a472f5a
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Mario
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Sep 11, 2009
3:02 PM
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Questions on computational linguistics - Preview not available
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Manch
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Sep 11, 2009
2:27 PM
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RE: [ai-94] people, topic for unMeetup? - Yes, I would be interested too... Anyone else? From:
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user 8135429
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Sep 11, 2009
2:15 PM
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Re: [ai-94] people, topic for unMeetup? - I worked as a research tech at University of Pennsylvania for 2 years constructing b
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Mike Schachter
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Sep 11, 2009
2:11 PM
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Opportunity to ask questions of an AI panel - The MIT/Stanford Venture Lab (VLAB) is organizing an event at Stanford on Tuesday September 15. They have asked me to ask you all for interesting questions to ask their panel of AI experts at the event. Topics they intend to discuss are
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Monica
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Sep 11, 2009
9:35 AM
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Re: [ai-94] people, topic for unMeetup? - Mike, Sounds interesting... are you studying CN at a university or self-study? -- Mario http://mechanistician.blogspot .com/
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:
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Mario
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Sep 11, 2009
6:03 AM
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people, topic for unMeetup? - Hi AI Meetup Group!
My name is Mike, I'm a software developer and study Computational Neuroscience
in the time I'm not writing code to pay bills. I want to come to a meetup, but only
3 people RSVP'ed for this Sunday's unMeetup. Is that a realistic es
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Mike Schachter
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Sep 10, 2009
10:00 AM
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New Meetup: UnMeetup - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: UnMeetup When: September 13, 2009 12:00 PM Where: TechShop 120 Independence Dr. Menlo Park, CA 94025 [masked]
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Monica
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Sep 8, 2009
5:59 PM
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Volunteer needed to facilitate next Sunday's meetup - I'm out of town on September 13 and wondered if someone would like to volunteer to facilitate the next meetup. I have a couple more videos but we've had several of those recently so any suggestions for things to do would also be welcome. Several grou
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Monica
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Sep 6, 2009
12:13 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Looking for AI buddy - Hi David, You may also want to check Eric Mueller's comprehensive survey and insights into this topic: http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~m ueller/papers/storyund.html
As
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coredump9
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Aug 31, 2009
12:02 AM
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Re: [ai-94] Looking for AI buddy - I just saw the video and here is something interesting ref. the AI communications: How to use the library of visual symbols within the brain together with
brain plasticity and train ourselves into becoming super-humans: It
is known that mu
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joanne basecki
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Aug 30, 2009
1:16 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Looking for AI buddy - The referenced paper is pretty old. I suspect that a more recent link
would be this:
http://openmind.org/
It's not clear why one would pick JRuby as a starting point, but that
could be a lively dialogue at some point.
Jack
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009
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Jack Park
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Aug 29, 2009
11:47 AM
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Looking for AI buddy - Hello,
I am looking for programming buddy who would like to, as a starting
point, reimplement Patrick Winston's recent work about story
understanding. I just became aware of his work with this video:
http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/ 695
I'm ver
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David Beckwith
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Aug 29, 2009
1:32 AM
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New Meetup: Kurzweil versus Gelernter - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Kurzweil versus Gelernter When: August 23, 2009 12:00 PM Where: TechShop, Menlo Park We will watch and discuss the video
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Monica
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Aug 19, 2009
10:35 AM
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New Meetup: Videos about Brains - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Videos about Brains When: August 9, 2009 12:00 PM Where: TechShop, Menlo Park I have found several interesting videos featuring ta
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Monica
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Aug 2, 2009
11:19 AM
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Extra MeetUp THIS COMING SUNDAY: Logic Leaves the Lab: Building Smart Computer Game Characters - The second meetup this month has been rescheduled to happen ONE WEEK EARLIER, i.e. this coming Sunday at noon. There are two reasons for this: Our speaker, Martin Magnusson, is available on that date, and both he and I are unavailable on the regular MeetU
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Monica
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Jul 14, 2009
9:50 AM
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New Meetup: Sunday Matinee - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Sunday Matinee When: July 12, 2009 12:00 PM Where: TechShop, Menlo Park. Details behind link at bottom of message. We will watch a
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Monica
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Jul 6, 2009
12:39 PM
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New Meetup: Mark Carranza: Language as Artificial Life - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Mark Carranza: Language as Artificial Life When: June 28, 2009 12:00 PM Where: (A location has not been chosen yet.) "Word is
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Monica
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Jun 23, 2009
11:49 AM
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New Meetup: Video: STAIR (Stanford AI Robot) project by Professor Andrew Ng - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Video: STAIR (Stanford AI Robot) project by Professor Andrew Ng When: June 14, 2009 12:00 PM Where: Click the link below to find out!
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Monica
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Jun 8, 2009
3:31 PM
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New Meetup: Holistic Salon: Bizarre Systems - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Holistic Salon: Bizarre Systems When: May 24, 2009 12:00 PM Where: TechShop, Menlo Park. For details, see link at bottom. Meetup D
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Monica
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May 19, 2009
2:46 AM
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Re: NLP Opening -- Palo Alto -
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Brandon
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May 5, 2009
11:30 AM
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New Meetup: Demo MeetUp - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Demo MeetUp When: May 10, 2009 12:00 PM to 2:00 PM. Where: TechShop, Menlo Park. For details, click link below. Meetup Description
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Monica
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May 1, 2009
1:52 AM
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rideshare, Re: Reminder: "Holistic Salon: Reasoning vs. Understanding, Models vs. Patterns" is tomorrow, Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:00 PM! - Preview not available
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jeremy helm
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Apr 25, 2009
9:16 PM
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New Meetup: Holistic Salon: Reasoning vs. Understanding, Models vs. Patterns - Announcing a new Meetup for Bay Area Artificial Intelligence Meetup Group! What: Holistic Salon: Reasoning vs. Understanding, Models vs. Patterns When: April 26, 2009 12:00 PM Where: Click the link below to find out!
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Monica
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Apr 23, 2009
12:46 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - One final note on this topic and then by popular decree we will all
go back to hiding our motivations.
There are shills and spoilers in this group who's interest runs
counter to the development of non-biological intelligence. I don't
know to
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user 7812120
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Apr 12, 2009
12:24 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Every culture has an approach to the subject of rhetoric and noise of motivation. But the scientific method has deals specifically and programatically with the noise of desire. Not by ignoring it, but by paying more attention to it. Getting very familia
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user 7812120
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Apr 12, 2009
10:39 AM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Considering my own interest in phenomenology and enactivism, I will chip in here in support of this point. Husserl's "phenomological attitude" arises when we step back from the natural attitude, not to deny it, but in order to investigate t
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Scott Jackisch
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Apr 12, 2009
1:13 AM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - This side conversation is really off-topic, but in the interest of transparency, I've copied it here: http://www.ai-meetup.org/messa ges/boards/thread/6675767
- David
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David M
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Apr 12, 2009
12:42 AM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Good. And of course almost all software written since smalltalk (event driven) works in this way, with priorities given to events or nested event loops. This goes a long way towards demystifing emotion (and shows it as just another conditional logic loo
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user 7812120
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Apr 12, 2009
12:26 AM
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[ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Offline, i recieved a note that suggested that i shouldnt psychoanalyze an apponent (along with a leangthy explanation with examples).
I answered:
We can not study the brain or intelligence or computation and ignore belief and motivation. As exampl
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
11:38 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month -
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Thanks for your thoughtful response. I've s
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Josh
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Apr 11, 2009
11:37 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Josh, I read your paper. I do not see anything particularly convincing. You are making distinctions between things which are equivalent. You mention several time that computers are "binary", as if this were a limitation. But this is not a re
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David M
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Apr 11, 2009
10:35 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - May I suggest threaded view in your email client. Then all the
comments collapse into one line. Or add rules to eliminate some
commenters. Unfortunately, there isn't an ad hominem attack filter;
that would be awesome!
On Apr 11, 2009, at 10:18
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Warren
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Apr 11, 2009
10:32 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month -
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It is an interesting discussion. I copied
some idea from a spiritual ma
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Joanne
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Apr 11, 2009
10:30 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - What of what has been said is garbage? So much in this field goes unsaid and festers. I have been dismayed by the religiosity driving much of the interest in AI (this group and others). Thought we shoud bring motivation to the surface so that we might
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
10:20 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Preview not available
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Travis Wellman
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Apr 11, 2009
10:18 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month -
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Josh
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Apr 11, 2009
9:58 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month -
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Josh
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Apr 11, 2009
9:52 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Isn't free will really a misnomer and a vestige of our limbic (emotional brain) that creates unconscious impulses based upon its intrinsic desires for safety and pleasure? Why do you think you do things that are illogical or irrational? Surely not bec
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Ben
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Apr 11, 2009
9:35 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - For past several days, we have been getting garbage from most of you guys that think know something about AI but really don't know anything. Got tired of readin
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Ben Nosrati
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Apr 11, 2009
9:31 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Ibrahim, Clearly, computers today are not capable of anything human-like.
They certainly don't have wants, needs, wishes, or 'free will'. But
presumably this is because they lack the programming that would make
these things possible.
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David M
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Apr 11, 2009
9:19 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Every half century or so, science gulps up some significant territory previously owned by spirituality. A while back we had to conceed the heart. No longer the place of love and the seat of the soul... just a rather complex and efficient blood pump. So
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
9:03 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - When we attempt to study the mind and intelligence and have to do that studying from the mind itself using our own intelligence, we nessisarily place ourselves into a very noisy feedback loop. The ground shifts under our feet... the ground is our feet.
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
8:24 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - The american astronomical society (or sume such group) was tasked with and placed several large but old telescopes at new universities in emerging economies around the world. Some twenty years later grumblings went up from amature astronomers in the west
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
7:20 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Observing yourself is less of a Turing machine and more or a G ö
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Warren
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Apr 11, 2009
3:49 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - I really think you confuse the term "computer" with "intel inside". When AI practitioners talk of computing they refer to the total domain of posibility in computation. This includes your dell laptop but is a vast space that also includes any manor of t
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
2:55 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Yes, endless papers. But as well as they may be written or as richly inforrmed, they are not connecting with the average joe (or even often to eachother). The emotional/spiritual bagage that has reared its irrational head in this thread is proof of that
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
2:32 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Well, I think "free will" is the one real difference between human beings and perfect AI. It's not feelings, emotions or other things that's happening around us. That's why the argument comes to "free will" or the illusion
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ibrahim
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Apr 11, 2009
2:11 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - I am starting to "believe" that humans can not have a discussion that isn't religious. "God" help us.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Chris"
To: [address removed]
Sent: 4/11/2009 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
1:43 PM
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A number of interesting thoughts, indeed. Like Mike Hewett, I suggest we
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Josh
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Apr 11, 2009
1:32 PM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - sin? did you say sin?.... this is not the religious meetup discussion.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Randall Reetz < [address removed] >
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Chris
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Apr 11, 2009
1:22 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - The other sin we frequently commit is over estimating the isolation of the mind and the spontaneous generation of thought. This even though we know full well the profound negative effects of even mild sensory issolation. Brains are more mixmasters than
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
12:40 PM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Maybe the real bugaboo with free will is the tendancy to over estimate the power of thought. I ask you, how amaizing would a fuel have to be, to turn a piston engine into a turbo-jet engine. The brain is a more flexible instrument than an engine, but tho
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
11:28 AM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - There are lots of surprising and unexpected things to do with determinism. The biggest surprise is that determinism is not equivalent to calculate-able. A deterministic universe is not a knowable universe... else there would be no need for this increadi
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
11:13 AM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - There are lots of surprising and unexpected things to do with determinism. The biggest surprise is that determinism is not equivalent to calculate-able. A deterministic universe is not a knowable universe... else there would be no need for this increadi
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
11:11 AM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Ibrahim, You need to distinguish between responsibility in the ethical sense with responsibility (i.e., control) in the literal sense. None of us are in complete control of the world. We didn't create it. We didn't choose to enter it, nor did
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David M
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Apr 11, 2009
10:58 AM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - What interests me is why people are so hung up on the illusion of free will. Those of us that understand it as such have just as exciting and unpredictable lives as those that dont. We have the exact same experience of life.. We experience life as thoug
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
10:51 AM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - If we assume any action at a given moment and space is a result of a deterministic function f(a1,a2,......) where we define every possible factor as an input except for free will then it's safe to claim that humans are not responsible of their actions
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ibrahim
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Apr 11, 2009
10:24 AM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - I love it when i meet someone as smart or smarter than me. And of course I know they make "mistakes". So what! The rock in my front yard doesnt make mistakes, and i dont carry it around with me in a sholder bag. God i wish the s--t around me was smart.
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
1:34 AM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Yes, we do not want them to search on their own. We think of them as
calculators, just things to do calculations in a reliable way. As their
role has been extended to manipulators of information, we just want them
to be reliable storage and transport
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andi
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Apr 11, 2009
12:41 AM
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Re: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Ibrahim, There is no way for two identical programs with identical inputs to produce different outputs. Anything computable has this property. (computable in the Turing sense, which is incidentally, the only one we know)
May I suggest instead
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David M
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Apr 11, 2009
12:11 AM
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RE: [ai-94] Stanford's "Ask the Expert" is on AI this month - Said another way, it would be imposible for any two "identical" beings of having identical experience as input, if only because each can not inhabit the same space at once. But i agree david, the world is pleanty complex enough to provide enough of what
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user 7812120
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Apr 11, 2009
12:08 AM
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