As an evolution theorist, I am interested in the why of intelligence. I find the "artificial" modifier arrogant. If something is intelligent, it is intelligent… period. When we say "yes but humans had to create it", we ignore our own construction.
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Leave your Adderall at the door. This group is a no holds bared pit of chaos. Just what the AI doctor ordered. Come help us dig around in this dark and confounding landscape that is intelligence. What is it? What is its range? How can we work towards an abstraction that is both sharable and useful for the exploration and construction of experimentation environments? This isn't your grand daddy's meetup. Come get muddy and scuffed, it is always an adventure. Randall
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"The math is easy. Try to isolate a system from itself. That is always more expensive than not."
"Evolution with a capital E!"
"I challenge anyone to show me how a conscious-free intelligent system would be less complex than one with consciousness."
"Reading List (or what I can remember of it): Micromégas (Voltaire) Origin Of The Species (Charles Darwin) Pattern In Nature (Stevens) General Theory Of Relativity (Einstein) What Is Life (Schrödinger) There Is Plenty of Room At The Bottom (Fe..."
"I think it makes sense to move this discussion to the message board. I have started a thread "Is Consciousness All That". Lets leave this space for comments directed to Bob's talk."
"There seems to be a human tendency to over-identify with the mysterious. One reason we do this is to hold on to the hope that we are not restricted by causality...."
"About quanta: they flirt between our 4 dimensions and a space/time free zone. But their flirting collapses as they interact with each other. That is why there is space/time. The crap meta-physisists ascribe to QM is only theoretical...."
"Remember, meta-physisists are not interested in explaining normal mental activity...."
"Even "what the bleep"ers explain consciousness without QM. But they aren't interested in what brains do. They hold out hope that we could transcend material confines and think our way to omnipotence...."
"If someone (Lex?) can show me how quantum processing happens in the brain, or why it is necessary to explain "mind"... I am all ears."
