AI A&Q
Mar
28
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12:00 PM
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TechShop
120 Independence Dr.
Menlo Park, CA 94025
800-640-1975
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22 people attended.
Who organized?
Monica
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“ One would assume that a group so heavily oriented towards technology development and so heavily dependent on physics, mathematics, and logic would attract participants more squarely aligned against hubris and rhetoric. One would be wrong. Frustrating. Dr. Strangelove redux. Bob Bloom joked that the group was like "geek church". I wish his comment wasn't so prescient and revealing. Looks like a science of the next is just as susceptible to transcendent motivations as is the religion it replaces. I am an active critic of post modernism… but this AI group refuses to even admit that personal motivations must be revealed before observation can be attempted! I am not even suggesting that we can rid ourselves of hubris, just that we need to work towards exposing it and admitting the way our work is desire-biased. I love all of you, but my god, it wouldn't hurt to put a mirror up to our fears and utopian motivations. ” -
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“ Lots of debate about nebulously defined questions. Traffic control would be useful, particularly for a few who dominate the conversation through interruption. More organization, even for a collection of questions, would be useful. ” -
“ Monica was going to show a funny video, but showed a disturbing preacher video instead. For being somewhat skeptical regarding Sam Harris's as moral philosopher, there many varieties of comments on the TED Talk we saw part of: http://www.ted.co...
For more: The Is-Ought Problem, was discussed by the SF philosophy meetup two weeks ago, and tonight, Monday, March 29, by the Berkeley philosophy meetup. http://www.meetup... ”
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What is thought? What is creativity? How are they related? Are they related?
What are the processes of decisions?
Q: Who can give me a ride down from SF?
I like Monica's original idea of HER asking the questions. Some of the members seem to be rebelling against this idea. :-)
Q: What percentage of this meetup's members have an active interest in the suppression of the possibility of success in the field of AI?
Q: Does extreme passion for a domain (AI for instance) work in favor of or against success?
Q: Is there any reason to believe that membership in this meetup will contribute to the likelihood of success of your own AI research?
Q: If you had unlimited funds, how would you spend them in the pursuit of working AI? How does this differ from the research you do in the absence of funding?
Q: What are the significant differences between the excitement/responsibilities a parent feels when rearing a child and the way AI researchers feel when preparing experiments and constructions?
Q: From which domain is success in AI most likely? AI specific research? Robotics? Neurology? Cognitive Science? Linguistics? Mathematics? Game Theory? Thermodynamics? Evolution Theory? Game Development / Entertainment? Logic? Philosophy? Psychology? Systems Theory? Chaos Theory? Physics? Bistro Math?
Q: Will the existence of a self evolving super-intelligence compress time such that slower thinkers (humans) become utterly insignificant?
Q: Assuming a superior intelligence sharing Earth with us, what will humans accomplish that they might not otherwise have done, and in what pursuits will they loose interest?
Q: Are there multiple opportunities to succeed in the field of AI, or will the first success make all subsequent research moot?
Q: Which of the AI projects you have read of or seen demonstrated seem especially promising? which seem doomed to failure? Why?
Q: As in horror and mystery genres, the predictive narration found in science fiction and fantasy has a tendency to play to the deepest and most pervasive of human fears. As an audience, we seem especially attuned and attracted to stories that involve the construction of things otherwise derived from "nature"? Frankenstein's monster and all of its variants. Is this reaction a warning against our tendency towards over-valuing our own powers, or against the wisdom of actually building "life".
Q: Has public reticence significantly hampered the development of AI? How does the ever-increasing diffusion of science-informed technology into the daily lives of the average global citizen effect public acceptance of (possibly superior) artificial beings?
Q: What is the thermodynamics of thought? What describes the least energy cascade of physical neurological events from which human intelligence precipitates, emerges, or is evidence of? Is anyone attempting to build AI from the perspective of a self-evolving, least energy optimizing, thermodynamic system?
Q: Are there real causal boundaries limiting intelligence? How close is human intelligence to this theoretical asymptote? Is there something beyond intelligence that is as much superior to intelligence as intelligence is to, say, reproduction.
Q: Have we already discovered the essential structure of intelligence? leaving only the task (however daunting) of application?
Q: Will there ever be a science supporting the study of intelligence? Will it be possible to describe intelligence within the exact ontological taxonomy of units and transforms such that measurements can be taken, mathematical equations applied, and predictions falsified?
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