Bert Koehler: Building AI Systems That Understand Humor

Jan 24 Sun 12:00 PM
Location
TechShop

120 Independence Dr.
Menlo Park, CA 94025
800-640-1975

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Attendance
 37  people attended.
3.50 3.5011 (11 ratings)

Who organized?
Monica

The talk will present an approach to understanding how to analyze and model cognitive processing of humor. Implementing this processing requires a new platform that will also be discussed. AI interoperability with the humanities will be explored too. There is no two-drink minimum, and you will not have to tip your waiter.
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Bert Koehler has been an engineering contractor and consultant in Silicon Valley for two decades. In parallel with his work with semiconductor firms in complex VLSI he has been doing AI research for decades with goal of merging AI and the humanities. Results have included progress in understanding humor, emotion, and fiction. He is writing several books on these subjects as well as a series of books on bases for engineering synthetic intelligences.

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  • Andrew Rondeau
    Posted Jan 27, 2010 4:40 PM
    Monica: You're right. Apologies to Bert.
  • Randall Reetz
    Posted Jan 25, 2010 1:11 PM
    I've seen better presentations. But I weigh in on the side of honest attempt and brave truth driven choices. The amount of effort expended (code writing) on AI over its 50 year history is embarrassing when compared with the paucity of real progress. This should be an indication that the project is large and unwieldy, that humans using available tools are up against real limits. Glory be to those who both recognize this fact and work towards a reasonable development system (sandbox).
  • Monica
    Posted Jan 25, 2010 8:03 AM
    Reluctant Heretic
    Bert jests. This one is, I believe, "Just Triumph" :-P Of course, it's as unnecessary for him to apologize as it is for me as facilitator. TechShop gracefully lets us use a meeting space that seats 70 with an HDTV projector twice a month. For free. Which means I as a facilitator can't ask for my money back. Neither can you in the audience. This was the second worst of four bad events out of 75. Andrew should realize that we need to know what to do before doing. Debate twice, code once.
  • Bert Kaye
    Posted Jan 25, 2010 4:00 AM
    Apologies to Ms Atkins for my having provided a loud PA system and noisy crowd in the other room, during my talk, disrupting me and making it not fun for you. Also for rambling horribly and not knowing the literature of the field I've researched for 25 years. I agree with Mr. Rondeau that I should have instantly implemented a large complex software system to give him immediate gratification, and was at fault in not demoing full human NLP for his pleasure, since it is so simple to do.
  • Andrew Rondeau
    Posted Jan 24, 2010 9:16 PM
    The discussion on what makes something funny was interesting from a philosophical view. As an AI enthusiast; I was hoping that Bert would show a working joke detector, and was willing to overlook the fact that jokes would need to be expressed in something other then normal English. In my opinion, a working demo, or examples of jokes and non-jokes that the system can identify, would give Bert's higher-level design credibility.
  • Olga Kostrova
    Posted Jan 24, 2010 4:00 PM
    That was informative as always. Thank to Monica and Bert. For the future I would suggest to leave Q&A for the end of each presentation, as we obviously overloaded Bert with questions and didn't leave him enough room to follow his slides and present result of his research.
  • Bert Koehler: Building AI Systems That Understand Humor happened on January 24, 2010 12:00 PM
  • Alex Gaputin
    Posted Jan 24, 2010 10:57 AM
    the "Paralysis Of Analysis" was very interesting!
  • Kevin Cameron
    Posted Jan 22, 2010 1:24 PM
    Maybe for discussion over pizza: Paralysis Of Analysis - http://www.npr.org/template...

Who attended?

  • 37 attendees
    •  Three cheers for Burt! One, for purposely ignoring the heap that is AI's own blind history. Two, for recognizing the need for AI sandbox(s) that put experimentation into the hands of actual human beings with actual human limitations. And three, for bravely and publicly exposing both the scale of the project and the democratic urges that drive it. It is always disturbing to see people avoid progress in favor of the much less risky posturing that is machismo and high ideals. Besides, machismo, when it comes from the feeble mouths of geeks is just about the most disturbingly ironic and sad form of ugliness. Yet, time and time again, geeks mount their donkeys and go about tipping at windmills, thinking themselves Achilles or David. Sad. I never thought I would say this but, there does seem to be a reasonable need for slide show and presentation software. Burt: I will gladly help you build a presentation befitting the breadth and scope of your work. Thanks Burt! 
    •  my awareness of the components of an erector set necessary to build perceptive systems was increased, there is a lot to do 
    •  He rambles horribly, doesn't know the literature, skips basics, has no material on the net. Not fun. 
    •  It was my first AI meetup; many people, some really nice, but I expected more opportunity for social interaction. 
    • Olga Kostrova (+1 guest)
    • Lex Ricketts (+1 guest)
    • Reluctant Heretic
    • Jack Park (+1 guest)
    • bill (+1 guest)
    • 1 former member (+1 guest)

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